John Hendricks founded the Discover Channel in 1985. Now, as the
chairman of Discovery Communications, the world’s top nonfiction media
company, he supervises 27 entertainment brands that appear on more than
100 channels to 1.5 billion people in 39 languages and more than 170
countries. He is the first corporate leader to receive the National
Education Association’s Friend of Education Award and serves on the
board of directors of a number of non-profit organizations, including
the United States Olympic Committee and the National Forest Foundation.
His new book, A Curious Discovery: An Entrepreneur’s Story,
describes his journey as he started the company and what he’s learned
from the experiences. In this interview, he talks about how he
originally got into the media business, how he’s evolved to deal with
changes in his industry, how he’s been able to attract the attention of
millennials and shares his best advice.
Dan Schawbel: How did you originally get into the media business and what obstacles did you see from the beginning?
John Hendricks: I came into the media business from
outside the media business. This goes back to 1982 and I was just
observing what was happening in the cable television industry. There
had been a significant Supreme Court case in 1975 that basically allowed
the existence of satellite-delivered cable networks. Then there was a
Supreme Court decision that was prompted by a lawsuit brought by HBO
against the FCC. I was intrigued by that because I was a fan of
documentary entertainment and when I was in college I was aware that
there were so many documentaries because my job as a work-study student
at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, I had catalogues of
documentaries that I would help the professors get in for their classes.
I was waiting for someone to create my favorite kind of channel. In
1982, nobody was creating that kind of channel, so I had the idea to
start the Discovery Channel. I came into it from outside the business,
which had some advantages. I didn’t know all the reasons why it
wouldn’t work and I think it was an advantage in a lot of ways.
Schawbel: The media world is much more fractured today than it
was back in 1985. How have you evolved your own network to be relevant
with the times?
Hendricks: You’re so right about that. We’ve gone
from a time when we had three commercial-broadcasting networks and PBS
back in the 1960′s and early 1970′s and with cable, we started to add
additional channels. In the beginning, cable systems were limited to
about 54 channels until the era of digital compression, which took place
in the mid-1990′s and so that was just the explosion of channel choices
and our response to that fragmentation was to think harder and not be
one channel within a universe of two-, three-, four hundred channels. We
quickly set out to create additional channels for distribution, first
in the United States, and then around the world. That was our first
step in dealing with fragmentation, was to be a multi-network player.
Secondly, as the Internet began to explode, that was another
platform, which really has almost endless options of content. We’ve
watched for the success stories of user-generated content. There was a
company called Revision 3, that was founded and based in San Francisco,
that started to accumulate some of the best talent, for example, on
YouTube, and so we studied them intently and made an acquisition.
That’s another way we deal with the fragmentation, is to look for
success stories around the world, and make acquisitions where we can.
In looking globally, we’re continuing to make acquisitions where our
plan is to have scale and have multiple networks globally, including
broadcasting, for example, with our recent acquisition of the
Scandinavian Broadcasting System, we’ve acquired a number of
broadcasting stations, in addition to new cable outlets. That’s our plan
in dealing with the fragmentation and to get bigger and develop
multiple networks that we can sell advertising around using the scale of
their reach.
Schawbel: How do you think you’ll be able to compete for the attention of Millennials?
Hendricks: Well, that’s a key question because they,
you know, largely, while television usage has increased among the total
population, the traditional television-watching, has had a decrease as
Millennials are going to other platforms. Our response is to look at
winning content services that have been developed on the Internet. We
are also developed pretty aggressively our own online services around
each of our channels. If you visit TLC.com, Discovery.com, Science.com,
you’ll see a wealth of content in addition to long form, that’s
available on the channel. With the Millennials, they’re generally used
to faster-paced, sometimes shorter videos and so we have those on our
own website, and also on Revision 3, and then we look at development
within YouTube. We have a new channel, really targeted at the
Millennials, which is called TestTube, and this is a project that’s been
developed from our division, called Revision 3, which I just talked
about. Our plan in dealing with the Millennials is to study them, learn
their viewing appetites, and then respond with content that’s directed
at them.
Schawbel: Tell me about the whole experience with the
tight-rope guy that was live-broadcasted, and there was a lot of social
media usage. How did that work for you and what were some of the
challenges, opportunities, and things that you saw based on that whole
program?
Hendricks: This is one of the most successful
combinations of both live television and social media that I think
anyone has ever witnessed. We had 13 million viewers around the Nik
Wallenda walk of the Grand Canyon. But, concurrent with all of that, we
had a variety of online and social media content that coincided that
walk, and so it ended up generating 1.3 million tweets, which we haven’t
seen, nor anybody has seen, in a while around television. It was highly
successful and was something that we’d planned for. We knew that this
was going to be a big event. All of us who were involved looked at what
this might mean in terms of excitement for the viewers. We knew it was
going to be almost too resistible and so we anticipated a large
audience, not quite the audience as large as that. I was hoping
somewhere between 8 to 10 million. Typically, on a Sunday night, 60
Minutes will be one of the leading shows on television at about 8
million viewers. And we clearly outpaced them at 13 million viewers on
Sunday night. We planned for aggressive use of social media and it
really paid off for us.
Schawbel: Do you think you’ll be doing more of those type of programs?
Hendricks: Yes, absolutely. Today, any of our new
productions have social media attached to them because our fans like to
interact. Our fans of the “Deadliest Catch”, for instance, like to get
closer to those shows and to the lead characters. That’s where, you
know, the Facebook, Twitter and Instagram connections connect viewers
closer with the characters they’ve come to love. That’s just a big part
of all of our programming, is the social media aspect
Schawbel: You’ve collaborated with a lot of the industry’s
finest, including Oprah and Mark Burnett. What were your experiences
forming a relationship with them and what was it like working with them?
Hendricks: Oprah is one of a kind and we really
enjoyed that partnership. We began to discuss a joint venture with
Oprah back in 2007 and actually formalized that relationship in 2008.
We’re 50/50 partners at the Oprah Winfrey Network. She’s been a
terrific partner. New networks typically take three to four years to
get to break-even and we expect that the OWN will break-even before the
end of the year. We’re very excited about OWN, and especially the
talent that’s been attracted to that channel, including most recently
Tyler Perry. This has been a labor of love for Oprah and I think
everybody that’s been associated with OWN has seen that this is one of
the most rewarding networks we’ve been able to be part of
We’ve
known Mark Burnett for a long time. He produced for us Eco-Challenge
and we’re all learning our ways with Mark about the allure of reality
television. Based off the success of Eco-Challenge, Mark went and
developed “Survivor” where, we were a little nervous about the concept
of Survivor. We thought, at the time, that it was a little bit
contrived and so, we passed, but it became a big hit on CBS. We’ve
enjoyed collaborating with Mark through the years. We took him up on
his offer when he was the one to land Sarah Palin to give viewers a tour
of Alaska and, so he produced that for us. It was actually his project
and so we’ve had a great relationship with Mark.
Schawbel: What are your top three tips for young aspiring entrepreneurs? What can they learn from your story?
Hendricks: I write a lot about in the
book about listening to your day dreams because that’s an indication of
what you really find interesting in life and so that’s first and
foremost, is to pay attention to your day dreams, and especially ones
that just won’t go away. The first step is to be certain of your
passions that originate with some deep curiosity that you have, if you
want to create something new.
Secondly, it’s just a lot of hard work. You’ve got to become an
expert at whatever business or industry that an entrepreneur is hoping
to enter.
Third, and this is probably the most difficult, is to develop a level
of confidence in your plan. Once you know you’re following your
passion and your purpose in life and you’ve researched your business
plan and you’ve become an expert, then armed with that, you should
develop a level of confidence because you’re going to need it. All
entrepreneurs are going to face the naysayers, and it’s really tough to
hear rejection, whether you’re raising the capital to launch your
business or you’re meeting with early distributors or retail outlets, if
that’s your business. Become confident and rely on that when everybody
else is saying “no” to your idea, you’ve got to forge ahead and make it
happen.
Dan Schawbel is a workplace speaker and the New York Times best-selling author of Promote Yourself
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